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15:12 Tenchi boo 👎 sdkman update broke on macOS unless you have bash v4 in your path
15:13 ash_2026 Тут есть, у кого русский язык родной? предлагаю пообщаться на #java-ru
15:13 Tenchi they switched from using tr to uppercase text to shell-specific variable substitution, conditionally checking for zsh and bash, but assuming bash v4 🫤
15:15 Tenchi нет
15:24 dreamreal You should have bash v4 anyway!
15:24 DoofusCanadensis eww
15:24 DoofusCanadensis tcsh plz
15:24 dreamreal on OSX? fighting words
15:25 DoofusCanadensis ksh then?
15:25 * dreamreal rolls eyes
15:25 DoofusCanadensis or would you prefer to go with csh/sh?
15:26 dreamreal zsh. I've tried nushell and fish, but eh, zsh is still the king
15:26 DoofusCanadensis macOS has bash v3 installed
15:26 dreamreal all the others are affectations so nerds can feel like they're living on hard mode
15:26 DoofusCanadensis so you have to do extra work to support sdkman
15:26 dreamreal yeah, well, brew install bash is definitely a lot of keys to type!
15:26 DoofusCanadensis and if you're using brew... why not brew install javaversion?
15:26 dreamreal I don't know why sdkman would assume that people willing to use sdkman might NOT be willing to use brew or an equivalent
15:27 dreamreal because brew's javaversion isn't as good as sdkman
15:27 DoofusCanadensis it is a weird flex, for sure
15:28 dreamreal brew's java is openjdk, anyway, and sdkman gives you a LOT of control over specific JVMs, a huge win for sdkman
15:28 DoofusCanadensis or you know what? sdkman team could write a brew recipe that requires bash and simplify things on macOS
15:28 dreamreal or that! File an issue!
15:28 dreamreal or file a PR :D
15:29 dreamreal I find a lot of bugs are inspired by someone having a variant environment that just surprises the authors because they don't share that environment
15:29 DoofusCanadensis no doubt
15:29 dreamreal like chances are every sdkman author has bashv4 so v3 just doesn't occur to them, but once it does it's like "oh, of course, let's fix"
15:29 DoofusCanadensis I don't have brew's bash installed here
15:30 DoofusCanadensis but I'm fine with letting IDEA manage my JDKs for me
15:30 dreamreal I'm not
15:30 DoofusCanadensis yeah well, you're smarter than I am
15:30 dreamreal actually, that reminds me I have an absurd gradle build that IDEA chokes on :/
15:31 DoofusCanadensis that sounds not fun
15:31 dreamreal It is not
15:31 dreamreal it's actually all kinds of anti-fun
15:31 dreamreal bbiaf