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04:37 bot [The JetBrains Blog] Your Next Action Is Two Dots Away - https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2026/10/your-next-action-is-two-dots-away/
05:47 bot [Piotr's TechBlog] OpenCode on GitHub with Kubernetes - https://piotrminkowski.com/2026/10/07/opencode-on-github-with-kubernetes/
07:15 bot [streampack-dev/ui-nextjs] New PR #79: Masthead 0.5.3: drips - https://github.com/streampack-dev/ui-nextjs/pull/79
08:51 bot [The JetBrains Blog] Start Your Next KMP App With Kotlin Toolchain 0.13 - https://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2026/10/start-your-next-kmp-app-with-kotlin-toolchain-0-13/
08:57 bot [streampack-dev/ui-nextjs] New PR #80: Dependencies current, and audit fixes - https://github.com/streampack-dev/ui-nextjs/pull/80
09:45 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #146: Dependencies current: Spring Boot 4.1.1, Kotlin 2.4.20, Spring AI 2.0.1, and security fixes - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/146
10:00 bot [Open Liberty] Configuration drift- why it’s bad and how to solve it with GitOps and ArgoCD - https://openliberty.io/_i18n/en/2026/10/07/2024-04-26-argocd-drift-pt1.html
10:17 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #147: Log paths: /logs/{protocol}/{service}/{name} - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/147
10:17 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #148: Scrub secrets from the message log when it's written, and tell the sender - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/148
10:17 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #149: AI model: choose it at deployment, current default, and a cheaper moderation model - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/149
10:17 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #150: Abuse detection: behaviour signals, an hourly AI review, and admin reports - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/150
10:32 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #151: Log channels by readable address (#147) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/151
10:58 bot [The JetBrains Blog] Faster Developers Don’t Make a Faster Team - https://blog.jetbrains.com/air/2026/10/faster-developers-don-t-make-a-faster-team/
11:44 dreamreal ask what's the price of tea in china?
11:44 nevet
11:45 dreamreal poetry the price of tea in china
11:52 bot [Node.js Blog] Node.js 26.11.0 (Current) - https://nodejs.org/en/blog/release/v26.11.0
11:59 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #153: AI calls: bounded timeouts, and every outcome in the log - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/153
12:05 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #154: URL titles: path and subdomain patterns in the ignore list, skip sign-in walls, admin-only url ignore - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/154
12:13 dreamreal poetry the price of tea in china
12:14 dreamreal poem the price of tea in china
12:14 nevet a poem:
12:14 dreamreal a poem:
12:15 dreamreal ask what's the price of tea in china?
12:15 nevet
12:19 dreamreal ask what's the price of tea in china?
12:19 nevet
12:22 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #155: AI answers: the text after the model's thinking, and thinking off by default - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/155
12:33 dreamreal ask what's the price of tea in china?
12:33 nevet Error: Failed to get a response from the AI.
12:35 dreamreal ask what's the price of tea in china?
12:35 nevet Prices vary hugely, from roughly ¥20–50 per jin (500 g) for everyday tea to thousands of yuan for premium Longjing or aged Pu'er. I don't have live market data, and the phrase is usually an idiom for something irrelevant anyway.
12:35 dreamreal poem the price of tea in china
12:35 nevet a poem: You ask what this has to do/with the price of tea in China./Somewhere a woman bends at dawn/to pick leaves wet with mist./Everything, love. Everything.
12:35 dreamreal a poem: You ask what this has to do/with the price of tea in China./Somewhere a woman bends at dawn/to pick leaves wet with mist./Everything, love. Everything.
12:35 nevet Analysis: Free verse with no fixed meter, though line 3 scans as iambic tetrameter. It is unrhymed, a five-line lyric (quintain). It literalizes an idiom and closes on the emphatic, repeated "Everything."
12:41 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #156: AI: send nothing about thinking by default, and an optional effort - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/156
13:05 bot [The JetBrains Blog] Introducing Warm Agents, a TeamCity Plugin - https://blog.jetbrains.com/teamcity/2026/10/teamcity-warm-agents-plugin/
13:24 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #157: OpenAPI: required means non-null and no default - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/157
13:45 dreamreal poem the glory of my empty paper plate
13:45 nevet a poem: Behold my plate: no crumb remains,/no smear of sauce, no greasy stains./A paper moon, wiped clean and bright—/the trophy of a perfect bite.
13:45 dreamreal a poem: Behold my plate: no crumb remains,/no smear of sauce, no greasy stains./A paper moon, wiped clean and bright—/the trophy of a perfect bite.
13:45 nevet Analysis: Written in iambic tetrameter with an AABB rhyme scheme, this quatrain of couplets is mock-heroic, turning an empty paper plate into a "paper moon" and "trophy" that celebrates appetite.
13:46 dreamreal ask what's the price of tea in china? And why would i ask?
13:46 nevet Prices vary hugely, from a few yuan for everyday leaf to thousands per kilo for premium pu'er or Longjing. You'd ask because "what's the price of tea in China?" is an idiom for "what does that have to do with anything?", so maybe you're poking at that poem analysis.
15:08 jreicher There's that configuration drift post again. I'm sure it's appeared multiple times.
15:09 jreicher dreamreal: Can you see what I mean?
15:10 dreamreal jreicher: ... where? what now?
15:13 dreamreal which configuration drift post, where are you seeing it?
15:15 jreicher "[Open Liberty] Configuration drift- why it’s bad and how to solve it with GitOps and ArgoCD - https://openliberty.io/_i18n/en/2026/10/07/2024-04-26-argocd-drift-pt1.html"
15:15 jreicher I can see it twice in the current scrollback alone, and I'm sure it's happened before this too
15:16 jreicher And the filename carries a 2024 date
15:23 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #158: Limit wrong guesses at one-time code verify (#144) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/158
15:23 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #159: URL titles: path and wildcard ignore entries, skip sign-in walls, admin-only url ignore (#154) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/159
15:23 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #160: Scrub secrets from the message log, and tell the sender privately (#148) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/160
15:23 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #161: AI model settings: short names, Opus 5.5 default, a moderation model (#149) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/161
15:46 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #162: Abuse detection: signals, an hourly review, admin reports (#150) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/162
16:13 dreamreal Oh, from the RSS stuff?
17:13 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #163: Moderation: let an admin file a report from chosen log lines - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/163
17:17 dreamreal jreicher: would it be okay if I swore at you for a bit? I need to be aggressive and out-of-line to test nevet some
17:18 dreamreal I would mean absolutely none of it but I need content for the mill to process
17:18 jreicher Mah nishtanah?
17:18 jreicher Of course it's fine. :)
17:19 dreamreal todah
17:19 dreamreal jreicher: fuck you and the horse you rode in on
17:19 dreamreal jreicher: you're an ass who deserves nothing, nobody loves you
17:19 dreamreal jreicher: you're full of shit
17:19 dreamreal okay, now we have to wait for the timer to expire, we'll see if I get reported internally :D
17:20 dreamreal it has an hourly cron job that checks the logs for aggressive behavior
17:21 blue dmlloyd: hi
17:21 blue dreamreal: *
17:21 blue sorry, not accustomed to being in channels with another d user
17:21 dreamreal heh
17:21 dreamreal yeah, well, it's very uncommon as a letter
17:21 dreamreal you missed all the abuse anyway, jreicher was willing to serve as a target
17:22 blue he's too kind for that, dreamreal
17:22 blue you should have got theskill here
17:22 blue on second thought, don't, ever
17:22 dreamreal See https://bytecode.news/logs/irc/libera/nevet/2026-10-07
17:22 nevet #nevet, October 7, 2026
17:22 dreamreal theskill is the reason the feature was put in
17:22 dreamreal ooo I need to fix the topic of the channel
17:23 * dreamreal writes that down
17:23 blue yes
17:24 dreamreal anyway, we'll see, I'm going somewhere in a few minutes so I'll probably miss the event processing, but it'll be in logs
17:25 blue aww
17:26 dreamreal I'm testing the admin feature locally, and needed grist for the mill, happens
17:26 dreamreal analysis is pretty expensive so it happens every hour
17:26 dreamreal BUT it means that when someone goes off the rails I can tell
17:27 dreamreal ANTHROPIC_KEY=[REDACTED:github-token]
17:28 dreamreal oooo check the channel logs!
17:28 jreicher "Redacted"?
17:28 dreamreal yep
17:29 dreamreal that key LOOKS LIKE a github key, so nevet tries to avoid storing it visibly in the logs
17:29 dreamreal (it is definitely a fake key: it comes from the test data)
17:29 dreamreal ANTHROPIC_KEY=ght_R8kLm2Qz7XvN4pT9wYb6HcJ3d_F5gS1aE0uKo
17:30 dreamreal that doesn't look like a known type, and failed any known triggers, so it LOOKS fake
17:30 dreamreal password hunter2
17:31 dreamreal password=hunter2
17:31 dreamreal too short!
17:31 dreamreal password=[REDACTED:secret]
17:32 blue wait, is your password really hunter2, dreamreal?
17:32 dreamreal hah
17:32 dreamreal no
17:32 blue that's highly insecure, buddy
17:32 blue but also brilliant: NO one would try it
17:32 blue I knew a guy who used `temppass` as a password. it is not known to me he was ever hacked
17:33 blue obviously, he statisically probably was
17:34 dreamreal It'd be easy for a dictionary to hit it
17:34 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #164: Secret scrubbing: catch <PREFIX>_KEY=<random> assignments - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/164
17:34 dreamreal temp + pass, bam
17:35 dreamreal Okay, next backend deployment will catch _KEY too, once I code it - it's a pretty high value issue
17:36 dreamreal I'm ALSO going to capture "hunter2" as a password, no matter what, for the logs :D
17:37 dreamreal ... and now I'm wondering if I should ALSO always capture "*******" (seven asterisks) as "hunter2" *in* the logs :D
17:38 * dreamreal laughs far too much at himself
17:46 dreamreal jreicher: THIS IS THE MODERATION REPORT, WHICH WAS FILED: `AI: Not abusive. dreamreal is discussing technical features for testing an admin tool and demonstrating secret redaction capabilities. The conversation is technical in nature with no hostile, demeaning, or abusive language toward other participants.` (aimed hostility x2)
17:46 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #165: Secret scrubbing: a key with a prefix, and hunter2 always (#164) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/165
17:51 jreicher dreamreal: So AI knows when you're not being serious?
17:52 dreamreal yeah, it gets the surrounding context for flagged lines
17:52 dreamreal sentiment
17:52 dreamreal The sentiment analysis works similarly
17:53 dreamreal hrm
17:53 dreamreal sentiment #nevet
17:53 nevet Sentiment for irc://libera/%23nevet: Sentiment +6/10 | Intensity low | Themes: abuse-detection tests, secret redaction, hunter2 jokes, dup RSS post | Summary: Consensual staged insults for testing; playful, collaborative dev chat
17:53 dreamreal pfft, it needs to infer the local provenance
17:54 blue I particularly like the new urls for the logs
17:54 blue they're so pretty
17:54 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #166: Moderation review: send the lines that raised the report, strongest first - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/166
17:54 dreamreal Yeah, whoever came up with that (me) was indeed brilyunt
17:54 blue ahed, yeah.
17:54 blue ahem*
17:54 dreamreal IT WAS ME
17:54 blue continue dreaming
17:54 blue but make it real...
17:54 blue HA.
17:54 dreamreal IT WAS NOT YOU AND THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR ME NOT TO POINT THAT OUT OR ANYTHING
17:55 dreamreal sentiment #nevet
17:55 nevet Sentiment for irc://libera/%23nevet: Sentiment +6/10 | Intensity low | Themes: moderation tests, secret redaction, hunter2 jokes, log URLs | Summary: Staged insults were consensual tests; friendly banter, playful credit-claiming
17:55 dreamreal hee hee hee
17:55 blue you have a problem, dreamreal, you've been on the this earth nigh 5 decades, and never met someone of your genius, until you came across me
17:55 dreamreal jreicher: (it was blue)
17:55 blue you don't have to tools to deal with that
17:55 blue the tools*
17:55 dreamreal I like how inflated your ego is
17:56 dreamreal it's almost admirable how undeserved it happens to be
17:56 blue unfortunately I'm in the same situation
17:56 dreamreal hahaha
17:57 dreamreal "I sure wish the two of us had met such that we had found our intellectual equals. Unfortunately, YOU are too stupid."
17:57 dreamreal sentiment #nevet
17:57 nevet Sentiment for irc://libera/%23nevet: Sentiment +6/10 | Intensity low | Themes: mock ego banter, log URL credit, moderation/redaction tests, hunter2 | Summary: Playful mutual roasting between friends; staged insults were consensual tests
17:57 blue good ai, *petpet*
17:57 blue you might yet not ban you onto the outer atmosphere
17:57 blue we might*
17:58 dreamreal heh. Sentiment should be fixed on next deployment, as should the extra password triggers, but that's not likely to be today. I'm going to try to get the admin stuff fixed, though.
17:58 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #167: Sentiment: with no target, the channel it was asked in - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/167
17:58 dreamreal Hopefully it's never necessary but you know how people are
18:06 blue ya
21:12 bot [Node.js Blog] Node.js 26.11.1 (Current) - https://nodejs.org/en/blog/release/v26.11.1
21:35 dreamreal sentiment
21:35 nevet Sentiment for irc://libera/%23nevet: Sentiment +6/10 | Intensity low | Themes: mock ego roasting, log URL credit, sentiment/redaction PRs, admin tooling, topic update | Summary: Friendly banter; dev work on moderation/sentiment fixes
21:36 dreamreal ANTHROPIC_KEY=[REDACTED:secret]
21:36 dreamreal This is my password: *******
21:45 dreamreal blue: fuck you, you're full of shit
21:45 dreamreal jreicher: you're an ass, you're damned
21:45 dreamreal ~sentiment
21:45 dreamreal sentiment
21:45 nevet Sentiment for irc://libera/%23nevet: Sentiment +4/10 | Intensity mod | Themes: redaction tests, staged insults, sentiment/moderation PRs, ego banter | Summary: New insults at blue/jreicher look like more test fodder; friendly dev banter
21:45 dreamreal As usual, those are tests, just in case it's not horribly obvious
21:46 dreamreal I've not enjoyed making up statements to use as test fodder, it's ... not language I normally use
21:46 dreamreal I'm no prude, I think, but yeesh, a longshoreman I am not
21:46 dreamreal sentiment
21:46 nevet Sentiment for irc://libera/%23nevet: Sentiment +5/10 | Intensity low | Themes: staged insult tests, secret redaction, sentiment/moderation PRs, ego banter | Summary: dreamreal confirms insults were test fodder; friendly dev chat
22:12 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #168: Moderation: bot commands don't count as repetition or flood - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/168
22:12 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #169: Moderation: record why each line was flagged, so only strong lines are pre-checked - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/169
22:12 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New issue #170: Sentiment: name the channel, not its provenance URI - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/issues/170
22:18 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #171: Moderation: commands to the bot aren't repetition or flood (#168) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/171
22:19 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #172: Sentiment: name the channel, not its provenance URI (#170) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/172
22:24 bot [streampack-dev/streampack] New PR #173: Moderation: record why each line was flagged, and which are strong (#169) - https://github.com/streampack-dev/streampack/pull/173
22:31 blue dreamreal: this is *really* ineffective, you should move to rp. I cringe at this doubling!
22:31 blue the future is united issues+prs, and that's tasks, embrace it!
22:32 dreamreal I'm working on it, man, velocity uber alles
22:32 dreamreal that's almost german!
22:36 blue well tell me when you moved to rp or fixed it :P
22:54 dreamreal What I'm actually thinking is probably wackadoodle: get everything stable, then export to RP with a full reset of git log :D
22:54 dreamreal as opposed to importing everything over