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01:42 NeXeN it's good to have logging whether used or not, and you can simply replace slf4j with whatever you want
01:42 NeXeN but yeah that does sound like something the IDE should pick up on
14:05 DynamiteDan greetings. I have been trying to use apache juneau to serialize POJOs but I am never able to compile sucessfuly even with AI help. Can anyone point me to an alternative? thanks in advance,
14:07 Para ~jackson
14:07 javabot Jackson is a library that provides a streaming parser for many, many common dataformats (including ~XML, ~JSON, ~YAML, ~CSV, and others) and can map those formats into and from Java Objects as well. See https://github.com/FasterXML/jackson - it's probably the most common such library in use in Java today.
14:08 Para Dunno what your use case specifically is, model mappers is also a category which might be relevant.
14:09 DynamiteDan I want to convert a pojo to json
14:10 Para Jackson it is then.
14:10 DynamiteDan without having the source. I have used gson in the past but it doesn't work as well
14:10 DynamiteDan thanks :) let me try.
14:10 Para None of these libraries work from source.
14:11 Para But gson is also a good option. Everyone uses Jackson though, either directly or indirectly.
14:14 dreamreal Jackson.
14:14 dreamreal Gson is not a good option.
14:14 dreamreal org.json is a TERRIBLE option.
14:15 dreamreal What I'm more interested in is what led you to JUNEAU.
14:42 DynamiteDan a web search :)
14:42 DynamiteDan but I am havin gproblems
14:44 dreamreal yikes. Bad search responses. Jackson.
14:45 dreamreal var mapper=new ObjectMapper(); var json=mapper.writeValueAsString(thing); // done
14:47 DynamiteDan I am havin g problems with the mavem dependencies
14:49 DynamiteDan https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TWE3klnv/
14:49 nevet Snippet | IRCCloud
14:50 Para Where's the problem?
14:52 DynamiteDan package com.fasterxml.jackson.core does not exist
14:57 DynamiteDan just invalidated the caches and it is working
14:58 dreamreal what build system
14:58 dreamreal and where
14:58 dreamreal which jackson version
14:58 Para the conflated Java, duh
14:58 dreamreal are you doing straight copypasta or are you developing like a real person
14:59 dreamreal What made you choose 2.17.2
14:59 dreamreal (this is why I suspect copypasta)
15:00 dreamreal 2.17.2 is fine, but the recent version is 2.22.1, which your tooling should have suggested to you
15:01 dreamreal okay, it's working now, sorry, caught up, was doing errands
15:02 Para Also while for testing it's fine as is, but for actual use I'd use <dependencyManagement>
15:02 dreamreal most problems are problems for another day :D
15:03 Para BTW I've been running claude for a bit now in a "Socratic teacher" mode and it's very neckbeardy and angry at times :D
15:03 Para "No. You're wrong. Your code has bugs." is rather refreshing.
15:04 Para I'm teaching myself frontend stuff and realized that it kinda works to have the LLM be the teacher. I just need to write a better agent prompt at some point first.
15:05 Para I think this might be a path less traveled so the over appeasement filters are not being applied :)
15:05 dreamreal That last thing is ALWAYS the case, para.
15:45 DynamiteDan ok, it didn't like the class Event from pircbotx ehhe
15:46 DynamiteDan the search depth was deeper than 1000
15:52 Para 1) we have no idea what you're trying to do 2) it seems you're just slapping things together; you're breaking eggs hoping for an omelette
15:52 Chronos I mean, if you break *enough* eggs...
15:53 Para If Mythbusters was a thing, I'd want them to try this out.
15:53 Para How many eggs does one need to break (and in what conditions) for an omelette to emerge.
15:53 Chronos At $WORK, we're in a constant state of third party jar dependency hell. It sucks, to say the least.
15:53 DynamiteDan I am jusy experiencing yes
15:53 dreamreal worth noting: this has been done. By people in this channel.
15:53 Chronos Especially with vulnerabilities flowing like great, mighty rivers.
15:54 Chronos Constant update churn.
15:54 dreamreal DynamiteDan: that's because of recursion in the data structures.
15:55 Para pircbotx's Event also has direct reference to the bot object itself behind a getter, so that definitely will go nuts
15:58 dreamreal DynamiteDan: speaking from... imputed experience *from this channel* I'd suggest doing a transformation from pircbotx structures into a persistable form, and using THAT.
16:01 DynamiteDan yups, that is what I am doing now
16:03 DynamiteDan i have a class named IRCEvent and it has a constructor with a PircBotX Event parameter
16:03 DynamiteDan now I need to find out all data I need
16:09 DynamiteDan now a OOP problem. Event is a base class and I am dealing with derivated classes for the events. SO I guess I need to parse every type and cast to the proper object
16:09 DynamiteDan I haven't done OOP in a while
16:15 * dreamreal scans for an ownable problem and fails to find one
16:36 * DynamiteDan is almost sleeping
16:37 * DynamiteDan is almost sleeping
16:37 DynamiteDan hmmm
16:37 DynamiteDan where is a action event when you need one hehe
16:38 DynamiteDan :
16:45 DynamiteDan hmm
16:45 DynamiteDan on the event methods I create the proper object, it is the best way
21:05 DynamiteDan how do I signal a field not to be serialized?
21:13 sonOfRa transient fields are not serialized by java serialization. If you're using other libraries to serialize (jackson for example), you may have to be more careful
21:14 sonOfRa iirc a transient field is not serialized, but if it has a public getter, it *will* be serialized through the getter, unless you configure your mapper not to do so
22:18 DynamiteDan oh... so much to learn again