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41. 13:08 dreamreal ~suffering
42. 13:08 javabot Suffering-oriented programming: make it work, make it pretty, make it fast - in that order. http://nathanmarz.com/blog/suffering-oriented-programming.html
43. 13:08 nevet Suffering-oriented programming - thoughts from the red planet - thoughts from the red planet
44. 13:10 waz or just say 'fuck it' and: claude --dangerously-skip-permissions.
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46. 13:12 dreamreal heh
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48. 13:31 Para Huh, so is that where I've got that from.
49. 14:00 dreamreal whaley mentioned it here one day, and it rocked mah whirled, it's very effectively done
50. 14:06 Para While I'm very anti-personalityfollowing, Nathan Marz is one of those guys who's managed to be somewhat interesting and good.
51. 14:06 dreamreal yeah, there're a few
52. 14:07 Para He made the precursor to this at Twitter: https://storm.apache.org/
53. 14:07 Para Like...13 years ago.
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71. 19:17 mawk there's no macro preprocessor in java like in C I believe
72. 19:18 mawk it would be very useful to have #ifdef in the code to remove some code depending on compile time configuration
73. 19:19 mawk apparently ant and maven can do search and replace in the cod
74. 19:19 mawk I use ant
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76. 19:20 Para That would fucking suck.
77. 19:20 Para Macros are a footgun.
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79. 19:20 Para (says the person currently being paid to write lots of Clojure)
80. 19:21 jbosmans given clojure paid a lot then !
81. 19:21 Para ~okayish
82. 19:21 javabot Para, what does that even *mean*?
83. 19:21 ernimril well, you can still use the c-pre-processor in java if you are insane. Technically possible, but not recommended
84. 19:21 jbosmans yeah Para
85. 19:21 jbosmans :P
86. 19:22 jbosmans there's different ways of doing it depending on what you want to accomplish
87. 19:22 jbosmans java has some experience with dealing with platform specific code :)
88. 19:24 Para Modern APIs also allow for non-intrusive switching between OSes, file systems etc.
89. 19:24 Para NIO2 has lots of flags for that sort of stuff, of course people don't really use them that much.
90. 19:25 jbosmans (unless they need to ^)
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