dex3rddoes this explain it if I read it thouroughly
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dreamrealI mean, sure, if it fits what you need and how you need to learn it
dreamrealit's a really long version of what I said. Again, why?
dex3rddreamreal: I'm just screwing around with java because someone is learning it right now and I told him I'mma learn it as well I have 1h to learn everything about java
ernimriluh, you can not have a dog named "Tommy"! :-)
dex3rddreamreal: What do you mean if it fits what I need. I got no clue. The answer is yes or no. I just want to know what a class {} is
jreicherdex3rd: no, nothing that has been said or linked to here will completely explain the concept of a class. It's very dififcult and involved, and these things are very small intros at best.
dreamrealdex3rd: I'm going to say no, then, because while you can learn enough Java to use it in an hour, you'd have to have gone in with enough programming skill to not have to need the explanation
dex3rdOk
dreamreallike, I knew enough C++ that for me Java was "oh, it expresses this concept this way, it has a GC, okay, cool" - it was a mapping of concepts and features, not "I gotta learn something new"
javabotdex3rd's title: "What Is a Class? (The Java™ Tutorials > Learning the Java Language > Object-Oriented Programming Concepts)"
nevetWhat Is a Class? (The Java™ Tutorials > Learning the Java Language > Object-Oriented Programming Concepts)
dex3rdbtw java is a trash language right?
dex3rdbut we still learn it
dreamrealno, java's great
jreicherJava is an excellent language.
dreamrealit gets called a trash language by hipsters who think they're too cool to get shit done
ernimrilbut, if it is not thrash why does it have a garbage collector? :-)
dreamrealthe same people say cobol is useless
jreicherdex3rd: But you haven't said what you're trying to do with Java. It's also not a tiny language, and you will get lost in irrelevant details without a goal. You also won't have good quality questions to ask here without an activity you're undertaking.
ernimrildex3rd, do you think that java would be one of the most used languages if it was complete thrash?
dreamrealtrash, not thrash, ernimril
dex3rdjreicher: My goal is to know java
dreamreala thrash language uses a lot of guitars and is very busy
jreicherdex3rd: that's not a goal
dex3rdMy goal is to understand class
ernimrildex3rd, now there are places where java shines and there are places where other languages shine, pick one that is good for what you want to do
dreamrealdex3rd: for what purpose? I mean, I like to read books so I can say I've read them, but I'm actually after learning and exposure
dex3rdthen next to understand system.out....
dreamrealdex3rd: yeah, the answer is definitely no
dex3rdso I can improve my hello world program that I copy pasted
dreamrealyou're not using a knowledge acquisition process that has a measurable yield
dreamrealsorry
dex3rdOk sorry I'm noob
jreicherdex3rd: are you trying to write a program?
dreamrealnothing wrong with being a noob, there's a lot wrong with not having any intentionality about what you do
dreamrealand that goes way beyond programming
dex3rdI'm trying to learn java because I'm curious and I typed hello world in java I copy pasted it. And got it to work. Now I don't understand parts of the Code
dex3rdand my goal is to understand each part so I can improve the hello world. I want to print a = 5;
dreamrealwell, that's a different process: why not say that?
jreicherWhy are you curious about Java, specifically? There are other much better languages to be curious abotu.
dreamrealPrograms are not THEIR PARTS. They're made of parts.
dex3rdIdk I was on a discord call saw someone doign it
dreamrealJust like you wouldn't understand a human by understanding toenails.
dex3rdI just want to read java Code
jreicherWhy?
dex3rdidk
dreamrealdex3rd: sure. So we're HERE: why not ask questions about what you're missing?
jreicherWhat software are you looking at that's written in Java?
dex3rdI've asked already thanks for the help I'm learning what a class thank you
jreicherdex3rd: is this your first programming language?
dex3rdno
jreicherWhat do you already no?
jreicherKnow
dex3rdidk a lot
dreamreal* dreamreal sighs
jreicherdex3rd: just name a few
dreamrealhow old are you?
dex3rd25
dreamrealdex3rd: okay, well, act like it
dex3rdjreicher: Idk I'm new but not new
dex3rddreamreal: I'm sorry I'm kinda fked up in the head
dreamrealgive us SOME EXAMPLES, please, because we tend to know a lot of languages too and can find analogs
jreicherWhich languages have you already had exposure to? That will give me an easy way to point you to parallel concepts in Java
dreamrealwell, get over it
dreamrealif you're stoned or drunk, hey, whatever, you do you, but don't make things hard for the people who're trying to help you, that's a great way to get people to stop trying to help you
dex3rdwell I'm 1.5y into arch linux I was exposed to bash c lua a lot of tools configs.... other systems nvim emacs env lisp elisp. python. AHK on windows.
dreamrealyou only get so much gratis free will, after a while you just end up looking like an ass
dex3rdI think this is what I know that might be relevent
dreamrealwell, python has classes; C has structs with function pointers; java classes are roughly analogous to those
dex3rdI never used a class in python I used structs in C
dex3rdso class in python is a way to define objects
nevetProgramming in Lua : 16.1
javabotjreicher's title: "Programming in Lua : 16.1"
dreamrealdex3rd: and n java, a class is the basic building block for an object.
jreicherdex3rd: A class in Java is similar. When you create an object you have to supply a class. But it's also used by the type system in various ways.
dex3rdjreicher: How in the world do they have classes in lua? isn't lua all about tables?
jreicherdex3rd: In your list of languages I don't think you have anything strongly typed, so I think that might be the new thing for you.
dex3rdjreicher: I should have learned C++
jreicherdex3rd: it's a bit weird. I'm not going to defend it. I was just trying to give you something you might have seen already.
dreamreal... someone doesn't know mumps :D
dex3rdIt's fine thank you. I'll go read the links you gave me expect the lua
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dex3rdok I get what a class is it's a blueprint. and object is just running that blueprint to spawn entities from the class